MIT SCIENTISTS: GLOBAL WARMING BULLSHIT

Saturday 21 November 2015 at 02:02 am.

Prominent Scientists Declare Climate Claims Ahead of UN Summit ‘Irrational’ – ‘Based On Nonsense’ – ‘Leading us down a false path’


By: - Climate DepotNovember 19, 2015 6:10 PM with 1962 comments

Note: CFACT’s new skeptical documentary, Climate Hustle, is set to rock the UN climate summit with red carpet’world premiere in Paris. 

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From Left to Right: Dr. Will Happer, Dr. Richard Lindzen & Dr. Patrick Moore

AUSTIN, Texas – A team of prominent scientists gathered in Texas today at a climate summit to declare that fears of man-made global warming were “irrational” and “based on nonsense” that “had nothing to do with science.” They warned that “we are being led down a false path” by the upcoming UN climate summit in Paris.

The scientists appeared at a climate summit sponsored by the Texas Public Policy Foundation. The summit in Austin was titled: “At the Crossroads: Energy & Climate Policy Summit.”

Climate Scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen, an emeritus Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT, derided what he termed climate “catastrophism.”

“Demonization of CO2 is irrational at best and even modest warming is mostly beneficial,” Lindzen said.

Lindzen cautioned: “The most important thing to keep in mind is – when you ask ‘is it warming, is it cooling’, etc.  — is that we are talking about something tiny (temperature changes) and that is the crucial point.”

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Lindzen also challenged the oft-repeated UN IPCC claim that most of warming over past 50 years was due to mankind.

“People get excited over this. Is this statement alarming? No,” Lindzen stated.

“We are speaking of small changes 0.25 Celcius would be about 51% of the recent warming and that strongly suggests a low and inconsequential climate sensitivity – meaning no problem at all,” Lindzen explained.

“I urge you when looking at a graph, check the scales! The uncertainty here is tenths of a degree,” he noted.

“When someone points to this and says this is the warmest temperature on record. What are they talking about? It’s just nonsense. This is a very tiny change period. And they are arguing over hundredths of a degree when it is uncertain in tenths of a degree,” Lindzen said.

“And the proof that the uncertainty is tenths of a degree are the adjustments that are being made. If you can adjust temperatures to 2/10ths of a degree, it means it wasn’t certain to 2/10ths of a degree,” he said. (Also See: Scientists balk at ‘hottest year’ claims: Ignores Satellites showing 18 Year ‘Pause’ – ‘We are arguing over the significance of hundredths of a degree’ – The ‘Pause’ continues)

“The UN IPCC wisely avoided making the claim that 51% of a small change in temperature constitutes a problem. They left this to the politicians and anyone who took the bait,” he said.

Lindzen noted that National Academy of Sciences president Dr. Ralph Cicerone has even admitted that there is no evidence for a catastrophic claims of man-made global warming. See: Backing away from climate alarm? NAS Pres. Ralph Cicerone says ‘we don’t have that kind of evidence’ to claim we are ‘going to fry’ from AGW

Lindzen also featured 2006 quotes from Scientist Dr. Miike Hulme, Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia, and Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, admitting that claims of a climate catastrophe were not the “language of science.”

“The discourse of catastrophe is a campaigning device,” Hulme wrote to the BBC in 2006. “The language of catastrophe is not the language of science. To state that climate change will be ‘catastrophic’ hides a cascade of value-laden assumptions which do not emerge from empirical or theoretical science,” Hulme wrote.

“Is any amount of climate change catastrophic? Catastrophic for whom, for where, and by when? What index is being used to measure the catastrophe?” Hulme continued.

Lindzen singled out Secretary of State John Kerry for his ‘ignorance’ on science.

“John Kerry stands alone,” Lindzen said. “Kerry expresses his ignorance of what science is,” he added.

Lindzen also criticized EPA Chief Gina McCarthy’s education: “I don’t want to be snobbish, but U Mass Boston is not a very good school,” he said to laughter.

Lindzen concluded his talk by saying: “Learn how to identify claims that have no alarming implications and free to say ‘So what?’”

Princeton Physicist Dr. Will Happer, who has authored over 200 peer-reviewed papers, called policies to reduce CO2 “based on nonsense.”

“Policies to slow CO2 emissions are really based on nonsense. They are all based on computer models that do not work. We are being led down a false path.

“Our breath is not that different from a power plant,” he continued.

“To call carbon dioxide a pollutant is really Orwellian. You are calling something a pollutant that we all produce. Where does that lead us eventually?” he asked.

“Coal, formed from ancient CO2, is a benefit to the world. Coal is CO2 from ancient atmospheres. We are simply returning CO2 to the atmosphere from which it came when you burn coal. And it’s a good thing since it is at very low levels in the atmosphere. We are in a CO2 famine. It is very, very low,” Happer explained.

Happer continued: “CO2 will be beneficial and crop yields will increase.” “More CO2 will be a very significant benefit to agriculture,” he added.

Happer then showed a picture of polluted air in China with the caption: “Real pollution in Shanghai.”

“If you can see it, it’s not CO2,” Happer said.

“If plants could vote, they would vote for coal,” Happer declared.

Happer also rebutted the alleged 97% consensus.

“97% of scientists have often been wrong on many things,” he said.

Ecologist and Greenpeace founding member Dr. Patrick Moore discussed the benefits of rising carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

“Let’s celebrate CO2!” Moore declared.

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“We know for absolute certain that carbon dioxide is the stuff of life, the foundation for life on earth,” Moore said.

“We are dealing with pure political propaganda that has nothing to do with science,” he continued.

“The deserts are greening from rising CO2,” he added.

“Co2 has provided the basis of life for at least 3.5 billion years,” Moore said.

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  • Patrick Blasz

    Well finally we have some people with serious creds calling C6* what it really is!

    * Catastrophic Caucasian Caused Carbon Climate Change

    • John Whalen

      Lol, that damn “White Privilege”….

      • Flyingfish42

        CO2 is invisible so it would be “Clear Privilege”

        • CB

          “CO2 is invisible”

          That’s true! In its gaseous form, anyhow.

          CO₂ also warms planets, a fact that has been known for over a century.

          If any “prominent scientist” had overthrown this scientific understanding, she would immediately be given a Nobel prize.

          Has that happened?

          “The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century”

          climate.nasa.gov/evidence

      • tomlaredo

        You mean me being white causes climate change? Now I am nervous. You may have given the Idiots of global warming another reason to whine.

      • RLABruce

        Climate change IS caused by whites. Black skin absorbs heat and doesn’t go anywhere, but white skin reflects heat back into the earth’s atmosphere, releasing more CO2 which increases the Greenhouse Effect which causes Global Warming. We’re all gonna die and it’s all the whites’ fault! /s

        • alanthegreat

          So the climate change drones can claim that the cooling trend they can’t deny is caused by black people hiding the heat in their bodies? don’t give them ideas Bruce, they make take that and run with it they are getting that desperate.

          • RLABruce

            Either that or the Tooth Fairy’s emissions. Whatever they think their no-infomation base will believe.

    • alanthegreat

      For most of these climate change drones its not science and never has been. They are indoctrinated religionists that have been fed with 12-16 years or more of chicken little stories in state institutions called schools. For the politcals, its about control, wealth and power acquisition.

      • iisac bartender

        This why the debate is over strategy was put in place in an attempt to get legislation through before the bottom dropped out on their lie. IT’S TOO LATE NOW look for back peddling politicians to start claiming they were duped by scientist and scientist to come out and claim they were paid to lie.

        • JwpATX

          That’d be true if this story were actually picked up and spread around, but my guess is that it stays right here, so only Drudgers and those that read Climate Depot will see it… Ever. Lindzen is my hero, so I hope I’m wrong.

          • JulietteofOhio

            Thank you! It’s delightful to receive validation for all of my “backward thinking” and failure to believe “settled scientific fact”. The Lib personality, in my opinion, is akin to the 3rd Grade bully or the Mean girl in Middle School.

          • alanthegreat

            Maybe more akin to a Soviet Gulag fence guard with an AK47, a fur hat, and a menacing face.

          • Seniorsquadldr

            It is their gap Gulag until their real physical Gulag is open for business.

          • alanthegreat

            Of course, for the non-believers, many have already said that non-believers should be prosecuted, its the inquisition all over again.

          • Seniorsquadldr

            The non-believers will be dealt with by their creator. As long as they resist the temptation to persecute the believers, it’s all good. Jesus said they will hate us, they hated him first. The inquisition was the Catholic thing, they hate Christians. No they are not Christians, they are a different kind of religion.

          • freedom74

            Worse, because they feel justified to do it “For your own good.”

          • Hominid

            Rigorous scientists have been laughing at the GW hoax from jump – it was so obviously flawed. But, you’re right – the Lib-Leftist controlled media and political hacks have promoted the pseudoscience and lies of GW and stifled the valid criticisms of bona fide scientists. They won’t quite now.

        • libwithIQ

          Much the same strategy as Obamacare. Get it in place and well involved before it’s discovered that it’s nothing but lies. But too late to get out of it.

        • alanthegreat

          Exactly, sooner or later the climate will make liars out of them and they know it. On the other side, if they KNOW the climate is cooling and many of these grant paid frauds do, they know they don’t have much time to get their crap rammed down our throats so they can claim what they are doing is actually working and take credit for it, hence the intensification the scare stories is their last tactic.

          • http://luxomni.blogspot.com/ Luxomni

            Entropy will win in the end.

          • http://luxomni.blogspot.com/ Luxomni

            And there is not one single atom of Carbon on this planet that was not here before the dinosaurs roamed.

          • fspiceland

            They are simply kicking the can down the road. Some are now claiming that we’re in the middle of a global warming pause due to low solar activity. I think the new projection is that global warming will resume around 2020. It’s a bunch of crap.

          • alanthegreat

            Its the perfect cover story that keeps them in the game no matter what.

        • Bunky

          That’s why they changed the name of the “crisis” from Global Warming to Climate Change to Climate Disruption.
          You could fit any weather into “Climate Disruption”.

      • Loud Noises

        Every time I posit that none of the major catastrophic predictions over the last 40 years have come true. When I ask for a rebuttal there usually is none. Who are the deniers, again?

      • sonnyboy

        All part of the NWO globalist strategy.

        “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.”
        – “The First Global Revolution”, A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider 1991

    • libwithIQ

      Is this from #BCCM? Black Carbon Credits Matter?

      • fedupMan

        Actually BCCMs (Black Carbon Credits Matter) are a way to rake in govt $ the old fashioned way by lying and sucking up to extremists.

  • Chris King

    every leftist you have ever met is an avowed liar.
    all of them.

    • alanthegreat

      That is a fact.

      • wkdylak

        They use their lofty positions to hide their ignorance.

        • ihatediscus2

          and get the grant money
          OHHHHHHH don’t forget all that government grant money

          • whimsicalmama

            that is the core of this con job

          • SWDC

            911 was all about breaking the USA’s economy and taking away individual rights.

            Islam is doing a great job thus far eh?

          • whimsicalmama

            only when you consider the witless left, I do think the conservatives in the US are well aware and ready for the conflict. do not include real americans in with the limp left of obama’s sycophants.

          • SWDC

            750,000 Americans needlessly died in the US Civil War. Civil Wars make nations weak as we have seen with the removal of all Islamic leaders by the current administration in order to place the Muslim Brotherhood in power.

            The Gallows are sooner rather than later for some will be a swinging for their betrayal and that crying wolf thing the boy did well he ended eaten by the wolf.

          • whimsicalmama

            do you not see the inevitable civil war that is in our near future, We are 2 distinct and non-accomodating cultures inhabiting the same real estate. One side will prevail at the expense of the other.

          • SWDC

            750,000 Americans needlessly died in the US Civil War.

            That divide and conquer thingamajig just is obvious it hurts.

            You wanna cos a race war in the USA
            You wanna cos USA citizens to kill US citizens in the USA

            Not as if we were fooled by the Ukrainian civil war where outsiders tried to tear apart a nation too. A nation were more than half the population speaks Russian as well.

            Islam and Sharia law violate the US Constitution.

          • whimsicalmama

            our national divide existed long before radical islam was on our radar, this is a cultural rift that began when the first socialist flostam was given succor at our universities after WWI and we can see the fruit of these fellow travelers that has so degraded the cultural core of a nation that used to be great.

          • SWDC

            Let’s get the language straight here since words have meaning. There is no such entity as radical Islam there is only ISlam.

            Again you are wrong and trying to get the USA to kill the USA is a a military ploy used all over the world as we have seen with the current administration messing around killing off leaders in Islam and Ukraine as well in order to put the Muslim Brotherhood in power. Did not work in Egypt for the Egyptians are smart peoples who will not tolerate ISlam destroying Egypt and Egyptian history.

          • whimsicalmama

            I am in total agreement that islam is the core of that problem, but the core problem in the us is utilizing this recent bout of islamic terrorism to further insert the progressive “fundamental transformation” of america. I am in greater fear of the rogue cabal of unionized bureaucrats and fellow travelers who inhabit our media, our educational institutions and our civil governments, I would refer to them as “the Lois Lerner Brigade”.

          • SWDC

            Do know the history of Communism in the US Civil War?

            Here let me get you stated I have two names of German Communists who gladly killed USA citizens: Franz Sigel and

            “Carl Christian Schurz (German: [ˈkaʁl ˈʃʊʁts]; March 2, 1829 – May 14, 1906) was a German revolutionary, American statesman and reformer, U.S. Minister to Spain, Union Army General in the American Civil War, U.S. Senator, and Secretary of the Interior. He was also an accomplished journalist, newspaper editor and orator, who in 1869 became the first German-born American elected to the United States Senate.[1]”

            See how Communists embed themselves also look up old Franz Sigel where the pattern is obvious for those who understand patterns. :)
            There were more 1848ers than these two but the importance in learning the history and identifying the patterns.

          • SWDC

            “Franz Sigel (November 18, 1824 – August 21, 1902) was a German military officer, revolutionist and immigrant to the United States

            who was

            a teacher,

            newspaperman,

            politician,

            and served as a Union major general in the American Civil War. His ability to recruit German-speaking immigrants to the Union armies garnered the approval of President Abraham Lincoln..”

            Identifying the pattern in the basics ‘101’. Ever wondered why US history classes all but skip studying the US Civil War in any sort of detail? Studying details Would out how many foreigners were recruited when some found it difficult to get USA citizens to kill USA citizens. 23.4% of the Union army were immigrants.

          • whimsicalmama

            that is not uncommon, as far back as the Egyptian empire, the use of mercenaries has been a common tactic, especially for the put down of internal uprisings. Even the british used Hessians against their “fellow englishmen” during our revolution. I don’t think there is anything special about our civil war other than it allowed LIncoln to begin the destruction of our federal republic.

          • SWDC

            As a result of the use of the Hessian (Germans) the hold outs, the Royalists and Catholics, joined the American Revolution.

            Germans have been killing USA citizens since day one of the beginning of the USA.

            Studying the US Civil war will help you with better understanding why some are trying soooooo very hard to divide the USA and in fact the US Civil is the very most important part of US history. best to hit the books becos PATTERNS REPEAT THEMSELVES when one is ignorant of history.

            btw nice little German Communist thurr eh? There are more 1848ers and one brutal sadistic Hungarian Communist to learn about too you know just like George Soros!

          • SWDC

            NOW with that every so brief US history lesson …

            Can one imagine the US Military today made up with 23.4% of Maj Nidal Hassan/ISlam?

            Do not imagine for it is happening right before our eyes.

            And the sole reason the RINOS and Democrats are promoting the mass immigration of foreigners who seek to embetter themselves in the USA by ANY MEANS NECESSARY!

            “I fit wit mit Sigel” US Civil War marching song marching to kill USA citizens to benefit themselves!

          • whimsicalmama

            and your solution?

          • SWDC

            Did you learn anything at all about those who promote civil wars within nations?

            Did you learn why the use of the IS IL rather than IS IS is significant and outs those who use IS IL rather than IS IS?

            One need only to look up and read the difference between IS IL and IS IS and be weary and suspect of those who use the IS IL rather than IS IS.

            Hope you have also learned there is no such entity as radical ISlam only Islam where again usage of language is very important. Language usage outs how one thinks and or is trained to think.

            For instance we learned the importance of language from George Orwell in 1984 and Animal Farm.

            My solution son is get to hitting the books and learn patterns and if one enjoys being enslaved by Islam then so be it just never even expect a USA citizen to ever GIVE IN! Again the reasoning for the mass immigration of immigrants where immigrants replaced slavery in the USA.

          • Pelosi Galore

            Absolutely correct!!

          • Tomm Dee Oakeefe

            why do you morons always try to changed the subject?…attention?, look what the original subject is about…..Me thinks someone didnt get enough hugs as a child

          • Pelosi Galore

            Why do you think the leftist want your guns?

          • SWDC

            becos a well armed entrenched civilian population is far more difficult to kill!

            Also the reason why the VA is not caring for US Vets so there are no civilians capable of fighting the foreigners/enemies embedded in the US Military

          • SWDC

            Remember the USA electrocuted the Rosenbergs for less.

          • whimsicalmama

            I could think of a few candidates today that have done far more damage to american security to shich we should offer the same solution.

          • SWDC

            Again 750,000 Americans needlessly died in the US Civil War.

            In 1937 Spain permitted Germany to practice bombing civilians own their own Spanish women and children.

            Understand perfectly why some are promoting civil wars within nations.

          • Tomm Dee Oakeefe

            stay on subject

          • SWDC

            I am on subject and you sir should skip along if you do not want to read posts. Skip to something you like rather than trying to be a moderator of a thread on disqus

          • Tomm Dee Oakeefe

            hey fuktard, keep you rants to the Alex Jones pages where someone cares

          • UFOCPrez

            Lol!

          • Skyhawk

            Well stated. I get tired of these special snowflakes that honestly believe they have special insight that no other educated American can see.

          • konc2

            fuktard? now that’s a word you don’t hear everyday, I like it.

          • unoga

            Get your head out of your ass and engage brain before posting.

          • CB

            “stay on subject”

            The subject is the warming fossil fuel companies are causing that Marc Morano is paid by those fossil fuel companies to lie about. When a person has such a long history of dishonesty, is it possible there are people who still take him seriously?

            earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/files/2015/06/no-slow-down-in-global-warming-720×546.jpg

          • txvet2

            Note the phrase “latest corrected analysis” at the bottom of the chart. Translation: they’ve jimmied the data to make it work (as already noted above in the article – thanks for providing everyone the evidence).

          • Diogenes71

            How many more “corrected analyses” will there be?
            Oil and methane are not fossil fuels. They are abiotic.
            They do not not come from decaying organic matter.
            Those abiotic fuels have been responsible for billions of people to live more comfortably than their ancestors.
            If you were sincere in your beliefs you would do one of two things:
            Off yourself – thereby ceasing to produce CO2.
            Walk everywhere you go with a sign stating “The Climate is changing! Everyone join me in walking the earth!”.

          • ddt

            Note how the earlier data is lowered substantially more than the more recent data to give an appearance of rising temperatures.http://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2015-11-19-04-16-48.png

          • Markblair

            We read how these “corrected analyses” are done…they go into the record and any data temp not recorded, they add plus a degree or two. They always correct it warmer than the average….

          • konc2

            So says the GORBOT, it’s not science, it’ a religion for Grubberites.

          • itellu3times

            WHAT long-term average are they talking about? Isn’t this the same data where they had “anomalous” South American data so they didn’t just drop it but they “fixed” it? Shameful to publish such crap with government stickers on it.

          • CB

            “In 1937 Spain permitted Germany to practice bombing civilians own their own Spanish women and children.”

            Sweetie, what does that have to do with the effect of greenhouse gasses on planetary temperature?

            “Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are very likely due to human activities.”

            climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus

          • unoga

          • CB

            “BS”

            What is BS?

            earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/files/2015/06/no-slow-down-in-global-warming-720×546.jpg

          • America is dying

            Oh, I’d surely bet MY life that this so called ‘data’ is accurate and meaningful.

            NOT.

            Too many of these bogus climate Chicken Little leftists have been caught red-handed ‘fudging’ (manipulating) the ‘data’ to imply warming……

            And NOAA figures prominently in the Lair of Global Warming Liars.

            Example: it was revealed in August that NOAA has been collecting temperature data from numerous U.S. airport weather stations, BUT, to support the totally bogus global warming scam, they have MANUALLY bumping UP THE TEMPERATE READINGS from the weather stations to show a higher temperature!!!

            Yep – I’d trust NOAA as far as I could drool.

          • America is dying

            Correction:

            Make it, “bumping UP THE TEMPERATURE READINGS…”.

          • drjgorman

            I live half a mile from a municipal airport, whose weather station reports anywhere from 5 to 10 degrees higher, than the actual temperature, during the summer. I have to believe that they have placed their equipment in a box, on the runway.

          • rikster

            It was revealed recently that “it was revealed” is not a valid source.

          • rikster sux Obama

            Awww…

            Too stupid to google it, bedwetter?

          • Mobius Loop

            “Too many of these bogus climate Chicken Little leftists have been caught red-handed ‘fudging’ (manipulating) the ‘data’ to imply warming……”

            That’s a big claim, feel free to provide evidence supporting it any time you like.

          • John Williams

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